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PostPosted: 04-07-2017 8:45 am
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And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
 Revelation 12:11

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

  Romans 10:6-10

Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;
To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

 Psalm 149:5-9

This isn't intended to be any sort of exegetical proof, but a collection of scriptures that seem (even if some only tangentially) to address a question I have had. Meditation upon the scriptures is a good thing. Scripture itself directs us to do so. But there is something about the spoken word that exceeds the thought in power. It may simply be that the spoken word has the ability to reach many ears at once, whereas the thoughts are a man's alone and do not propagate through the air to the hearing of others. Then there's the written word - it propagates, but only those that intentionally set their eyes and mind upon what is written take in what is being related. When one is within earshot, what is spoken can penetrate even the ears of those who may not want to hear. All that is to say that there is a different character of the taking in of the scriptures by ear and by sight - and even a different "processing" of them when meditating upon them.

Is there something superior (beyond the number of people who might hear) to speaking the Word over simply reading or thinking on it? Or even to "simply" testifying of the truth (not necessarily verbatim utterance of Scripture) that seems to be some part of what is being said in Revelation 12:11?
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PostPosted: 04-07-2017 8:59 am
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But there is something about the spoken word that exceeds the thought in power.


I tend to agree with you, nikolai. Quite often, the hearing from speech involves more of our mental processes than does the mere reading and viewing of words, especially when related to God's speaking to us in Holy Writ. Hearing of the Word is not cluttered up by the seeing from reading, wherein the visualizations that clutter our idol factory minds often skew our reading. This is especially true of men, who are very visually oriented.

You may find this book by Poythress very edifying:

http://frame-poythress.org/wp-con...sVernInTheBeginningWasTheWord.pdf
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PostPosted: 04-08-2017 9:40 am
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When I was going through chemotherapy, my eyes could not focus on the written word so I did not read much.

By God's providence, I found an ESV audio bible on line and listened to the Word for hours on end.

When I could, I followed along with my eyes as I was listening to the Word.  What I found was an exceptional gift of both listening to and seeing the Word of God.  

Thank you for your post, nickolai.   I was thinking about you recently and hoped you were doing well.


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PostPosted: 04-28-2017 8:35 am
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Louise,

Thank you for your kind words. And without the written word, I don't know where I would be myself...

 I've had a minor physical struggle lately, but beyond that my body is in decent shape. I trust the Lord is drawing you closer to himself. As I grow older, the physical concerns become less prominent in my mind and eternity looms ever larger. The spiritual struggles are the ones that really matter.
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